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Post  Gazza Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:27 pm

Hi all . ..

So as you may know I have just started in this GT stuff and trying to find out whats what re rules on Motors

Was told that its 13.5 and above is 2s LiPo or 6 cells and any think 10.5 and below is 1sLiPo or 4cell is this about right

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Post  Tomo Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:17 pm

I have always ran 13.5 2s lipo and I know alot of others do aswell.
1s 10.5 is even with the above though there arent any formal rules as of yet in this country.
The states have proper rules and use control tyres at nearly all of there main gt events which I like the idea of.
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Post  Gazza Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:25 pm

Hi Tomo

Yea was looking at this moto arena thing and there 13.5 and 1s rule scratch
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Post  Tomo Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:13 am

Yeah I had seen that but i would follow more what they have done in the states rather than here because they seem to have huge full grids and we don't so they must be doing something right. 13.5 1s means farting about with boosters so I will stay 13.5 2s like I have for the last 2 years
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Post  Gazza Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:37 am

Yea sounds good to me
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Post  overson Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:50 am

Gazza wrote:Hi Tomo

Yea was looking at this moto arena thing and there 13.5 and 1s rule scratch

Hi,
I ran that the last orion meet and found 10.5 1S to be good. also ran at tamworth against 13.5 and did find them about even as it was a tight track, i think if you ran them at moto arena i think you would find the 13.5 2S would have an advantage as its a larger track.
In the EPS euro pan car series they run 17.5 2S against 10.5 1S.
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Post  Gazza Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:41 am

YEA. . . Hi Neil welcome hope you Join in on this section feel free to post pics and write ups

So you gonna post about the Tamworth meet ?

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Post  overson Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:56 am

Hi Gazza.
The Tamworth meeting was great fun. It was a shame it was on the same day as ardent.
There were 9 GT10 cars the most cars i have raced against in this class.
There was a mix of 10.5 1S cars and some 13.5 and 17.5 2S cars

The Qualifing positions finished

1st Keith Richards
2nd Jason Butterfield
3rd Richard Norris
4th Mark Richards
5th NeilOverson
6th Peter lax
7th Tyron Birch
8th Tony fletcher
9th Martin Thorpe

The first final did not go well for me as i stripped my spur on the start line but the top 3 where.

1st Jason
2nd Keith
3rd Mark

In the second final i had no problems on the start and finished 5th, the top 3 where.

1st Keith
2nd Jason
3rd Mark

This gave Keith the win over all with jason coming second and mark 3rd.
The meeting was well run and great fun.
Thanks to tamworth for running it and hope there are more to come.

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Post  gazag Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:25 am

i think power corupts as shown in my GT10 and the F1 and ill be changing both down to 13.5, GT first when i get a tekin which will be soon
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Post  Tomo Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:32 am

I agree Gazag mate. You know I do like my power but in f1 and Gt 13.5 is more than enough, I dont even bother with turbo I find it makes the cars less drivable.
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Post  chequered_flag_racing Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:19 am

Tomo wrote:though there arent any formal rules as of yet in this country.
BRCA 2010 GT10 rules
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Post  Gazza Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:37 am

Blimey thats old 2010 . . .

So as the AGM is Oct that means these rules where voted on in October 2009 affraid

I feel its outdated as we are now 2011

what I mean is do we ALL HAVE TO get 10.5 motors and 1s LiPo
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Post  overson Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:25 am

we need the BRCA to sort out the rule's.
I run 10.5 1S and it goes well with a turbo speedo, and want to stick with it.
Gazza you watch the car go on sat what did you think.
I would like to race against a 13.5 2S on a large track to see the difference.

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Post  Gazza Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:43 am

Yea Neil it went well

Just that we hear about 2s and 1s 10.5 and 13.5 . . . .

to be honest I dont give a ***** just lets run to something we all agree on but as of 2011 there is

NO GT10 rules

on the Brca site study scratch

but to be honest im all for 13.5 and 2s or 10.5 1s NO Turbo or boost

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Post  overson Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:54 am

my vote would be 10.5 1S with turbo or 13.5 2S no turbo, think these would be about on par.
10.5 1S with out turbo would be to slow.
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Post  Gazza Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:18 am

Slow . . . . .
Heck you doing some thing wrong then as the mardave 13.5 1s lipo ( no turbo ) we were doing 22laps and you did 24 cheers

So yea I would say some thing is a miss Neal lol!
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Post  overson Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:33 am

I dont think there's any thing wrong with the car it was fast enough to keep up with the other's at tamworth but if i turned the turbo off then it would never be faster enough to keep up with a 13.5 2S car with or with out turbo

Even at ardent wich is a much bigger track than hinckly the was only 2 seconds between you wgt and your brushless mardave per lap
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Post  Gazza Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:39 am

oh no dont compare Ardent. .. totally two differant cars Neil

me dave there was running the TEKIN turbo boost etc

But at Hinck on sat was normall 13.5 1s no turbo or boost
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Post  overson Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:26 pm

We will just have to hope that the BRCA sort out the rules soon.
I will see the diference at the next winter meet.
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Post  Tomo Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:45 pm

I dont think there is anything inbetween 13.5 2s non turbo and 10.5 1s turbo except the 1s will handle better because its lighter but if all the cars were the same weight then job done.
The reason I say have both is that you will then draw from both 12th section and tc drivers as I you will always get the "I am not buying a new load of batteries to race something I was gona do as a fun class"
This way you give 12th drivers and tc drivers a chance to get HOOKED on this great class.
One other rule I would love is all shell used have to be proper current GT cars like lambos, bmws, porsches, ferrari's, Astons, corvettes etc and ban the bloody awful protoform sophia jelly mold and LMP shells.


All I can say is I had a great time racing my gt10 round ardent its years old with radio gear that tc drivers would class as antique and it still went well.
I ran 13.5 2s non turbo and I was probably 3rd fastest in class at the end of the straight but I was the quickest onto the straight Wink so had a head start.
Its a facinating one. At Gaydon we put in a split timing loop halfway down the straight and another at the end of it giving you a spilt time for the straight showing who had the fastest top end. Was Quite interesting the guys in the B final in 12th had the fastest cars but D.Spashett who won the a final was nearly a second a lap quicker at some points.

The simplest solution is usually the best and power is nothing without control.......
Trust me I lack the latter LMAO and I think Gazag the ultimate power mad crazy man has conceded that 13.5 2s makes more sense in his f1 and gt.
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Post  overson Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:00 pm

Tomo wrote:I dont think there is anything inbetween 13.5 2s non turbo and 10.5 1s turbo except the 1s will handle better because its lighter but if all the cars were the same weight then job done.
The reason I say have both is that you will then draw from both 12th section and tc drivers as I you will always get the "I am not buying a new load of batteries to race something I was gona do as a fun class"
This way you give 12th drivers and tc drivers a chance to get HOOKED on this great class.
One other rule I would love is all shell used have to be proper current GT cars like lambos, bmws, porsches, ferrari's, Astons, corvettes etc and ban the bloody awful protoform sophia jelly mold and LMP shells.

Hi Tomo,
This looks good to me, This would get my vote.]
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Post  jasonb Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:56 am

Gazza wrote:Hi Tomo

Yea was looking at this moto arena thing and there 13.5 and 1s rule scratch

Moto Arena meetings run by MKRCTC are run to 1s 10.5.

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Post  overson Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:29 am


Moto Arena meetings run by MKRCTC are run to 1s 10.5.

Jason[/quote]

Hi jason are you running on the 27th at moto
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Post  Gazza Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:50 am

just run to Brca rules 10.5 and 1s

or

17.5 and 2s

simple
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Post  jasonb Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:47 am

overson wrote:
Moto Arena meetings run by MKRCTC are run to 1s 10.5.

Jason

Hi jason are you running on the 27th at moto[/quote]

Can't make it, I'll aready be in France for the 12th Euros the following weekend Very Happy

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