winter series

Who's booked in so far?
Touring Car - Modified
Andy Moore
Chris Grainger
Elliott Harper
Touring Car - Pro-Stock 10.5
Chris Lovely
David Hall
David Williams
James Hart
John Dawson
Jonathon Bowden
Jonathan Forse
Jonathon Robinson
Josh Castle
Lee Spencer
Matt Chandler
Matthew White
Piero Torregiani
Stefan Chodzynski

Touring Car - Stock 13.5
Alex Brocklebank
Andy Sherburn
Ben Putt
Bradley Sellars
Dom Jackson
Ian Plimmer
Joe Speight
John Dawson
Joshua Walker
Mike Jackson
Ross Walker
Simon Hagues
William Vertigan
Mini 2wd Open
Adrian Clamp
David Robinson
Gary Dearing
John Ryland
Phil Brookes
Rob Clarke
Sam Brookes
Steve Brewer
12th Pan 10.5
James Stewart
Mick Farrell
12th Pan Mod

F1 Open
John Fitzpatrick
10th Electric Buggy 2WD
Ian Plimmer
James Ambrose
James Barker
John Langley
Kyron Jarman
Paul Field
Toby Stephenson
10th Electric Buggy 4WD
John Barnes
John Dawson
Paul Bolding
Paul Field
Toby Stephenson


“Life's a game, all you have to do is know how to play it.”We don’t want to get bogged down by too many rules but we do expect all classes to follow in the nature of what the BRCA suggest as rules and these are the ones we will be enforcing on the day,

Touring Cars•
5mm Ride Hight Minimum
•Weight Limit 1350grams including transponder
•2 cell Lipo (7.4v) or 6 cell NiMHs allowed
•Tyres Sorex 28JBs available on the day for £25.99 - or just bring your own
•Stock Class – Any 13.5 turn Brushless Motor
•Pro-Stock Class – Any 10.5 turn Brushless Motor
10th Electric 2wd and 4wd Off-Road Buggy•
Schumacher Yellow Mini Pins, available on the day at a discount or bring your own
•Motor limit - None
•2 cell lipo or 6 cell NiMHs
12th Pan Open
•Any motor allowed, although 10.5 seems to be the faster around our circuit.
•Single cell Lipo 3.7v or 4 cell NiMHs allowed
•Additive welcomed especially CS as it creates greater grip on our circuit than others we see tested here and we welcome black racing lines
10th GT Open•
Any motor allowed.
•Maximum of 2 cell lipo allowed or 6 cell NiMHs allowed
•Additive welcomed especially CS as it creates greater grip on our circuit than others we see tested here and we welcome black racing lines
F1 Open•
Any motor allowed.
•Maximum of 2 cell lipo allowed or 6 cell NiMHs allowed
•Additive welcomed especially CS as it creates greater grip on our circuit than others we see tested here and we welcome black racing lines
Mini 2WD•
Any motor allowed.
•Maximum of 2 cell lipo allowed or 6 cell NiMHs allowed
•Control Tyres will be Sweep Mini Touring Car Rubber Wheels/Tyres 25/33/40deg, Part number SWP-MN25/33/40 available on the day for £20 or bring your own, any combination permitted
•Must be 2 wheel drive

EDIT Just off the phone with Jonh and the Mardave class is


Mardave Stock<<<<<<<<<<<<Most people who have just bought there new Kit off John this is it
•Standard G2 motor only.
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo below £69 allowed

Mardave 13.5 1S LiPo
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo allowed

Edit Class below now droped Gazza
Mardave ‘Super Dave’ Class
•As above but any brushless speedo with reverse and motor no lower than 10.5 allowed
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs or 1 cell lipo allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed



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ill be there and down to a 10.5 motor in a mardave, hmmmmmmmmm

Sounds like a plan gazza. I would get the g2 brushless but not up to scratch yet with the STD setup.

How much quicker a lap is a STD g2 motor 4 cell and the 13.5 brushless lipo if you were to drive both on the track?

Are we talking 2-4 seconds a lap?

Right all sorry to delete posts but we have all been there and done that argument and we dont want to confuse people do we

Lets keep it simple




1. G2 4cell

2. 13.5 1s Lipo

3. Mardave brushless system lipo or 4 cell

All cars must have reverse

Mardave Stock
•Standard G2 motor only.
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo below £69 allowed

Mardave 13.5 1S LiPo
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo allowed

Wayne its so hard to say with the G2 standard against the 13.5 as they vary a lot possable 1 lap pos not ?

best thing to all newcomers is stick to the stanard one get the hang of it setup etc and then try out others later

remember this is a FUN CLASS

It's all fun class m8. Jus avin a bite to eat then off for some mardave testing.

John have you up dated your site yet ?

We need this info on so we can book in

1. G2 4cell

2. 13.5 1s Lipo

3. Mardave brushless system lipo or 4 cell

All cars must have reverse

Mardave Stock
•Standard G2 motor only.
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo below £69 allowed

Mardave 13.5 1S LiPo
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo allowed

Class below now droped
Mardave ‘Super Dave’ Class
•As above but any brushless speedo with reverse and motor no lower than 10.5 allowed
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs or 1 cell lipo allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed

im booked in now but under super dave, that will have to be changed to 13.5 and 1s

i keep trying but cannot seem to get booked in

Ok guys John has now got on the Ardent site the Mardave's we will be running
for the winter series

Mardave Stock
•Standard G2 motor only.
•Maximum of 4 cell NiMHs allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed
•Any reversible speedo below £69 allowed

Mardave Brushless Stock Lipo
•As above but any 13.5 brushless motor and speedo
•Maximum 1 cell lipo allowed
•Bearings allowed all round and rear Diffs are allowed


Right guys its time to figure out what class you want to run in as Tomo and my self we be scrutinering this section so G2 motors 4 cell and 13.5 1s Lipo its time to sort out your car those with 13.5 brushless and NiMh time to swop Batterys or motor and you guys with 19t saturn motors etc time to get a G2

we are watching you

John you have PM's

Just booked in as 13.5 1s LiPo mardave

Will john still be running the super dave class? I have 13.5t brushless with 4 cell nihms but i dont want to fork out for 1s lipo and the booster.

I am a supadave driver also. I run the MARDAVE system as its a mardave car and it made sense lol and I run cells not lipo as spend enough on my f1's

@ shepp33 Was but he droped it dont know why so its G2 4 cells or 13.5 and 1sLiPo im afraid . . .

But GUYS COME ON . . . you have seen us running 13.5 and 1s so you knew what the score is any way ?

Run 3 cells and a lipo booster. . . .

@Tomo you spend far to much on the F1's mate. . .

Not just aimed at Tomo. . . But the faster you go the more it hurts ya pockets when you crash weather its TC F1's I.C

I will run my dave system till it goes pop then I may spend money to replace it but as the national rules cater for the dave system and NOT the 13.5 1s class.

The 13.5 1s is a match for a G2 on cells as Gazza has stated on afew occasions so wy not run them together?
The dave brushless IS a match for a 10.5 as I have tried both back to back in my car and there has been 0.1 difference in lap time between the two so why not let them run together for those who enjoy abit of speed?

It doesnt need to be complicated but remember rarely is a race won with the mot power its how you use it that counts, just see how the red bulls are the quickest things on track even with the renault engine. Also if you watch a national A-final in almost any class of our sport then you will see the A-final cars are often noticably slower down the straights than the b-final guys but are driven with more accuracy and higher corner speeds aided by the lower entry speeds.

So why not let the racers who enjoy abit of speed enjoy it and so what if you break more parts it will keep the shop and therefore the club running and the parts only cost pence anyway its why I love mardaves.
Maybe I could run with my dave system but not run for points or trophies etc?????

Not wanting to start a debate really but just wanted to put it out there and see what the forum makes of it

Gazza wrote:Right guys its time to figure out what class you want to run in as Tomo and my self we be scrutinering this section so G2 motors 4 cell and 13.5 1s Lipo its time to sort out your car those with 13.5 brushless and NiMh time to swop Batterys or motor and you guys with 19t saturn motors etc time to get a G2

Is this one of these "cheap to run classes" that you need to buy new batteries or motors to enter anything except a club meet???

TOMO wrote:I will run my dave system till it goes pop then I may spend money to replace it but as the national rules cater for the dave system and NOT the 13.5 1s class.

National rules ? There arnt any Tomo . .

Well no Brca santioned ones . . only oval I think . . .Yea run it at the Mardave series hence Chris started it but at the moment Ardent is running 13.5 1s LiPo and G2 4cell

But Get in contact with John and ask him for the Super dave to be put back on. . . and then dont turn up


Just Looked at the booking in page there must be 12 heats already . . . Possable thats why its droped
But give him a call see what he says

Edit just got this in me Mail Box

John DawsonSeptember 4, 2010 at 8:24pm
Subject: Ardent Kick Energy Indoor - On-road Winter Series 102 booked in 18 spaces left!!
102 people booked in for our on-road indoor winter series. I know there's others wanting to race but with only 18 spaces left. They better be quick!!

@rich67 . . . No its a G2 motor standard 4cell mardave class ( known as STOCK ) and a 13.5 1s Lipo class which is the same as the stock but uses a 13.5 brushless and 1s LiPo

Gazza the mardave national circuit serried is run by the brca so the rules are the brca rules. I don't think they have been put into the handbook yet though and the tyre additive rule is a rubbish one left over from the oval section. Have alook at the circuit series links in the mardave section for more info. I don't mind not running for points or whatever just so I can use the same equipment as I do for the national circuit series. If John has a full meeting already then more class separation is not going to help make his life easier so I will just stick to f1 if there is enough f1s to race

Tomo there is no v12 circuit MARDAVE class by the BRCA ( as yet ) oval yes
We looked into this at the start at the Hinckley club and my 13.5 Li Po class and they were telling me the BRCA rules so I got my hand book and said

"show me"

Below is the current BRCA sections

1:12th Scale Electric Circuit
Touring Cars
1:10th I.C. Circuit
1:8th Scale I.C. Circuit
Large Scale I.C.

1:10th Electric Off Road
Rallycross
Large Scale Off-road

Oval - Top Stox
Oval - Hot Rods
1:12 Electric Oval

Bikes





Guess what I won

the rules on the Mardave site are . . . .


[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]ProposedV12NationalSeriesBRCARules.pdf


I point out the Proposed bit as this is on the Mardave site and NOT the BRCA site so as its a proposal only I would DEFFO run additive my self as the rules are a proposal only and there is nothing they can do about it unless you signed the agrement to the fact you would run to the mardave Proposal rules ?


Having said that I would gladley ask the Brca can we have a Mardave on road circuit section and you know whats gonna happen then

1 chairmen
2 sectatary
3 treasure
4 committie

Now who wants to fill the posts


rules to be put forward etc

My rules are simple . . . I propose 3 class's

1 stock class ( every one who has bought a kit ) G2 motor 4 cell ESC under £69 or wiper board

2 as above but 13.5 1s LiPo Max £150 speedo

3 as above but Mardave brushless OR 10.5 1s lipo or 4cell open ESC

Tyres & bodyshell's

Only Mardave tyres allowed only mardave / kamtec shells allowed NO 1/12th pan car shells
additive is alowed as well as a Mardave diff all ESC must have reverse

NO ESC with TURBO

if that's what you want. . . . but dont tell me set up the committee

Gazza Robbie Kerr who heads up the mardave circuit series is a brca official and we use the brca computer system at the meets but yes it's not in the handbook. So I think maybe its a test season for it before its put into the handbook. The rules were proposed but I am told by the guy who runs Hereford that all clubs that agreed to host the circuit series were sent a copy of the rules and agreed to the rules so they went from being proposed to in use. Asoon as the rules were used they became the current rules. Ardent would have been the exception due to the fact they were a last minute replacement for Dudley and so wouldnt have been part of the initial decision making.
Although I TOTALLY agree with you mate the tyre additive rule is a dumb one and needs to be changed.
But no turbo on speedos will be impossible to enforce so best to allow it.

uop101 is that a rc f1 in your avatar? if so its stunning, bring it down to the track

TOMO wrote:Gazza Robbie Kerr who heads up the mardave circuit series is a brca official

Yea so what ?